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louie
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:57 am Post subject: FOOSBALL AND THE MIRACLE DISCIPLE CROSS |
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FOOSBALL AND THE MIRACLE DISCIPLE CROSS
For at least a month before the 2007 Kentucky State Foosball Tournament, I started preparing physically, mentally, and spiritually. I tried to swim every night. I would pray while I swam. I would pray asking that God would make me his disciple; that I would recognize the opportunity to testify for him and do it; that I would look for this opportunity around the people who needed it the most. I would say the Our Father, the Hail Mary, the Glory Be, The Fatima Prayer and more. I would try to medicate, pray, talk to God, and feel the Holy Spirit while I was in the pool. I also prepared by playing Casting Crowns’ The Voice of Truth over and over again. In addition, I moved my trophies over in my storage room to make room for one more. I wanted to win a trophy so that I could say that I had won a trophy every decade for the last four decades. My motivation for winning and my prayers were not for the money, but to disciple for Christ and a trophy.
In the Pro Singles event Saturday evening and night I won my first six matches. Out of approximately 108 players I would be playing for the winner’s bracket the next day. I was real excited; in fact I started telling everyone about my accomplishment, including a guaranteed trophy, even calling friends and family.
On about four hours of light sleep I woke up the next morning, Sunday, and went to church. After church I showed up at the tournament room at about 11:00. I started getting real cold waiting to play. The longer I sat around waiting the colder I got and the more I could see my chances of winning fading.
I finally got to play for the winner’s bracket after nine hours of waiting and lost. While waiting to play for second place I walked over to the trophies and couldn’t find the third place trophies. I then discovered that there were trophies only for first and second places. In addition, I became very disappointed at how cheap the trophies looked. I knew I was in trouble, I wasn’t guaranteed a trophy like I had thought and I wasn’t hot like I was the night before. I ended up losing my next match and not getting a trophy.
On the way home I decided to go to the Smoky Mountains. At the base of the Smoky Mountains I walked into a Walgreens store to get something and next to the register there it was, a box with disciple crosses for sale. I didn’t have my reading glasses with me, so I had the lady at the register read to me what they were and they were marked disciple crosses. I picked out the one I liked and bought it. It didn’t realize it at first, but later I came to realize that that cross was the trophy that God wanted me to have. God didn’t want me to have a cheap plastic trophy; he wanted me to have that disciple cross. I prayed for days prior to the tournament that God would make me his disciple and God confirmed it with that disciple cross. I’ve never seen a disciple cross before anywhere, but there it was at the base of the mountains after I had prayed for weeks for it. God had spoken to me.
The cross is made of nails to represent the spikes that were driven through the feet and hands of Christ. It is wrapped with wire to represent the crown of thorns that were placed on his head. The strap that goes around my neck represents the whips that were used to beat him.
My disciple cross is the best trophy and gift that God could have given me.  |
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alaskan thunder
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Meh
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Craig
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| Bu dump Tsssss - Chris will be here all week, Folks! Be sure to try the Veal... |
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louie
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I hope we meet one day on the foosball table. |
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alaskan thunder
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meh
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Micah
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| Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | May we all find salvation through foos! |
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alaskan thunder
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meh
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Micah
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| Quote: | | May we all find salvation through foos! |
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alaskan thunder
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meh
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Micah
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | May we all find salvation through foos! |
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ttmf
Joined: 24 Oct 2007
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| Quote: | | Way to represent the "turn the other cheek mentality" of the Christians and way to support your postition with baseless drivel as opposed to facts. |
Chris,
Exactly what position do think Micah was trying to support?
| Quote: | | Now would a good Christian ever tell anyone to go fuck himself? |
You think you understand how a Christian is supposed to behave? I suppose since you have claimed not to be religious, understanding religion must simply be a scholarly pursuit of yours? I tend to doubt it.
| Quote: | | Maybe someday god can teach you to construct a logically sound argument, PRICK !!!! |
Who did you think was debating with you Chris? Do you feel uneasy when someone mentions religion? Is that why you took the offensive?
| Quote: | | If some of the foosers on these boards think I am confused and miserable because of my stance on religion so be it, but I can assure I live a perfectly happy life although my happiness is not derived from a source such as religion. |
I do not think you are miserable because of your stance on religion. I do not know why you are miserable. To write what amounts to nothing more than inflammatory post designed for the sole purpose of insulting someone and attempting to attack them would cause any reader to assume that you are miserable...at least for right now.
| Quote: | | Feel free to ask anyone who has met me and they will tell you that I am one of the most easy going people around. |
Your posts do not paint a picture of someone that is "one of the most easy going people around."
| Quote: | | That being said, Ill be damned if some uneducated conservative jackass is going to attack me personally (as opposed to my thoughts) on a message board. |
For someone that has tried to imply that they are college educated and logical you sure jump to conclusions. There is nothing in Micah's posts or Louie's posts that would indicate that they are "uneducated." Perhaps you inaccurately equate being religious with being uneducated.
Also, you were not attacked personally anymore than you attacked personally. An educated person in your position would never play the part of the victim as you have.
| Quote: | | Your rudimentary arguing style may have worked on the playground in 3rd grade but it's not gonna fly on the internet so long as I am around. |
I think your childish comments got Micah angry and he responded with anger. Nobody was arguing with you. Perhaps that is what you are so upset about. Perhaps you wanted to get involved in a debate about religion. Might I suggest an easier method for you? Post a question about religion and those who respond may debate with you.
| Quote: | | (See that was a persuasive argument!!!) |
Chris, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you did not present an argument or anything persuasive. You simply went on a childish rant.
| Quote: | | My post was not intended to come off as an attack on Louie, merely a statement of my feelings on the matter. |
Really? You should re-read your post. I did and it still sounds like someone pissed in your cornflakes and you were simply looking to incite someone else.
| Quote: | | By attacking me personally you not only invalidated the basis for your argument through fallacious reasoning, you also came of as being kind of an asshole. |
What argument are you talking about? He came off as being an asshole?!?! Are you serious? Your post has asshole written all over it.
| Quote: | | As I previously stated, people are entitled to believe whatever gets them through the day and people are also to entitled to disagree with what others say and think so long as they can support their premises with some sort of substantive evidence (as opposed to childish name calling). |
People can disagree with anything and they are not required to "support their premises with some sort of substantive evidence." If this is a rule you make for yourself you should consider following it, unless of course you have no integrity. If that is the case then carry on.
| Quote: | | I have been to churches in which the ideas of evolution and carbon dating has been dismissed as weird science!! |
There are scientists who have a problem with both the Theory of Evolution and carbon dating. You should open your mind a bit more. Science once told us, not to long ago, the Earth was flat and that the Earth was center of the universe.
Micah,
It was nice of you to apologize to Chris, but the truth is he was dickhead and should apologize to you and Louie. I do not suspect that he will because based on the drivel he has posted so far I fear he is bit immature and consequently very insecure.
Louie,
Thanks for the story. |
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foosfighter
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| Damn Alaska you just got face palmed! You gonna let the trash talkin mother fu*ker do that to you? Carry on boys>>>. |
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alaskan thunder
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meh
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alaskan thunder
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meh
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ttmf
Joined: 24 Oct 2007
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| Quote: | | Just because I dont believe in Christianity does not mean that I was not raised in a church. In fact I spent my first eight years of school in a religious establishment. Yet because I don't agree with a religion (or religion in general) this prevents me from knowing the tenants of a religion? I think not. I am well aware that christians profess to be humble in nature and nonjudgemental. This is not reflected in Michas post. |
So let me get this straight. You are basing your view about how a Christian should behave on an 8th grader's mentality? That sounds about right.
| Quote: | | How can you assume that I am miserable based on a few paragraphs I wrote on the internet. |
Anyone that would follow a story that intended to inspire people with a negative commentary on Christianity would appear to be miserable. This would include you.
| Quote: | | I didnt assume that you were miserable based on your naive beliefs. |
So far this is the only logical thing you have said.
| Quote: | | Do you feel uneasy when someones view differs from your own??? |
Not at all...well except when they act like a pompous know it all jackass. Again this would be you.
| Quote: | | Maybe I see and hear from Christians quite often and I have made a habit of letting my beliefs be known on the matter. The internet does happen to be a bastion of free thought and expression. |
This is true and that is why I am telling you what I think of your attack. And yes it was an attack. You claimed to have put forth some sort of argument, but this is what you said,
| Quote: | <begin christian rant<
LOL
So i prayed to Jah for like a month before I played in the S FL foosball championship. He bestowed me with some serious chronic which allowed me to decimate my opponents on my way to winning my division and finishing 5th in open doubles. On the way home I got superstoned in order to pay homage to he who giveth us heathens the dank weed.
BTW if there was a Christian God, as opposed to Buddah Alla Shiva Ganesh Zeus Thor or the Space Pope (who happens to be reptillian)etc. Please tell him I think he is an asshole and I am sick of his fan boys.
Thanks, Chris
/ read some nietzsche
// bets my skillz come from satan
>end christian rant> |
If you have any sort of training or education in how to construct a logical argument and this is your idea of a "logical argument" then you are a moron.
| Quote: | | Yes beacuse you know everything about my life and personality because of my stance on religion?! How insightful. |
I never said I know everything about your life and personality because of your stance on religion. Why do you throw in everything about your life? Since you know so much about logical fallacies, you clearly know this a red herring. In your case I would call it the drama queen fallacy.
| Quote: | | Actually if Micha was educated enough to understand the most basic concepts of logic he would know that attacking a person and calling them an asshole, telling them to go fuck themself, etc is considered an ad hominem argument which is not logically vaild. (feel free to double check me on that one, not that you actually will)Not being able to form a basic logical argument (premis supported by facts) is about as uneducated as one can be, so no I dont equate religion with lack of education, but I do equate weak fallacious arguments with lack of education. |
You continually mention ad hominem attacks. Of course if you knew what the fuck you were talking about you would realize that an Ad Hominem attack can only exist during the course of a debate. Since there was no debate he was just letting you know that you are an asshole.
| Quote: | | Actually I never attacked Louis personally. |
Yes you did. You tell a man who is clearly a Christian that if there is a God to tell him that you think he is an asshole. You are insulting the man's beliefs. If you cannot understand that this is an attack maybe you should lay off the chronic for a bit.
| Quote: | | Did I find the story silly and absurd? |
So you are that dickhead in the mall telling all the kids that have just seen Santa that he is not real. You are that same guy that has to be heard on every topic like your opinion means something to the rest of us when in fact we all see how stupid you are the more you open your mouth.
| Quote: | | Please point out anywhere in my statements in which I called anyone names (unless I was labled by someone else first, Micha, Oberfoosin1). I attacked the beliefs that made up the story but that was it. There is a big difference between attacking a belief and attacking a person (remember that ad hominem thingy?)! |
You do not have to call someone names to have an Ad Hominem attack. You need to look up a definition of Ad hominem. If you were attempting to debate with Louis then your whole post was an Ad Hominem attack.
| Quote: | | Had Micha attacked my beliefs without actually attacking me I would have had nothing to take issue with, unfortunately this was not the case. |
Really? That would be an Ad Hominem attack. Go back to school fool.
| Quote: | | Actually if you had the most basic idea of how to present an argument you would realize how idiodic that statement was. |
Where did you present an argument? Show me! You presented nothing but a childish rant.
| Quote: | | I work for the Public Defenders Office (I argue just a little bit) so until you work you way through years of undergraduate and post graduate logic classes I would appreciate if you would not discuss that which you cannot begin to understand!!! |
Ooooo the Public Defender's Office! There are Public Defender's Offices all across this country filled with illiterate morons like you. Shit you cannot construct a sentence and you want to talk about logical fallacies?!?! You keep throwing the term Ad Hominem around like it is some sort special knowledge reserved for the well educated. It is a basic concept that you clearly, based on your moronic posts, have not quite completely grasped.
| Quote: | | Apparently I incited many people but I also had many who agreed with my position, at least on EZboard. |
Appeal to Popularity...look it up.
| Quote: | | This is possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read, We may now be stupider for having read it. |
I doubt it in your case, but since it is the dumbest thing you have ever read I have to assume you do not read your own posts. Oh by the way your last statement...Appeal to Ridicule...look it up.
| Quote: | Your post is clearly a knee jerk reaction to my post because if you actually spent the time to understand what has been said you would not have made it. If you actually thought about it and still wrote what you did than you are much more uneducated than I initially assumed.
Let me guess...you will quickly respond to my post with more nonsense and no clue as to how to express yourself with anything bordering on intelligence. |
Wow, more logical fallacies! I’ll let you figure these out for yourself. Post if you need some help.
Chris,
You are in waaay over head. Perhaps you went over how to construct a logical argument in an English 101 at the local community college and you were able to remember the term Ad Hominem. You remembered enough to know that calling someone names in the course of a debate qualified as that Ad Hominem thingy. Of course you forgot the "in the course of a debate" part. You figured you would pull all that education out here and try to look smart. You have only succeeded in making yourself look like an idiot. A word of advice...quit while you are waaaaaay behind. You are waaaaay out of your league.
Another piece of advice…you should apologize to Louis and Micah. I suspect you are to immature to do so.
Class dismissed. |
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